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Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:23 pm
Talking to a picture of Green

A person I haven't quite met has made a record I haven't quite heard. The person is Green Gartside, and the record is the new Scritti Politti album White Bread, Black Beer. When I was in London six weeks ago somebody gave me some quite detailed instructions on how to bump into Green, but I didn't follow them. Partly because I'd heard that Green might turn around and, without a word, walk away when I was talking to him. That's no good! I might as well talk to a picture! At least it wouldn't walk away!

So, well, if I were talking to a picture of Green, what would I say? First, I'd apologize for not having bought his new album. The picture would say nothing, so I'd continue. I'd ask how the new record fits into the Scritti Politti narrative. I have, after all, heard key tracks, session readings of the new songs on Scritti fansite Bibbly-O-Tek (what a wonderful name!). So I wonder how the Scritti keywords are playing out:

NARCISSISM / SICKNESS / SWEETNESS / EQUALITY

I don't just mean how they're playing out in the lyrics. Music and lyrics and production all hold each other in place in a subtle dynamic. For instance, there's always been a "mirrors and coke" element to Green's work ("I am my own ideal") which he's always offset by mentions of sickness, on the one hand, and political engagement on the other. So does this offsetting still work? Does he "still support the revolution"? Or has that part of the Scritti equation narrowed down to a vague nostalgia for Robin Hood? And if so, is the sweetness / narcissism / sickness part still bearable? Didn't it need to be held in counterbalance with something?

I'm able to ask these quite hard-hitting questions because the picture of Green hasn't talked back, but also hasn't walked away. But it does make them sort of rhetorical questions, like asking the meaning of the word "girl" and not getting any answer except some synthy reggae-chords.

Green's voice hasn't changed at all; what has changed is the way its sweetness was counterbalanced, before, by hardness. The hardness of Mos Def's rapping, on his last record Anomie and Bonhomie, or the hardness of Arif Mardin's Fairlight hits back in the 80s. Sweetness, when it isn't held in place by hardness texturally, gets "cloying". Is your new record cloying, Green?

There's no way the man in the picture hasn't thought about these issues. Any artist has to. And it would be interesting if, for instance, this album won the Mercury Prize, to see whether a decision on Green's part to let a sort of fragmented consumerist narcissism triumph, untempered by the equality and hardness parts he incorporated before, actually got massively endorsed by a fragmented, consumerist-narcissist Britain.

I see others have been talking to pictures of Green too. Simon Reynolds quotes Barney Hoskyns quoting Green in an NME interview back in 1981: "And as regards, say, the "sweetness" of 'The "Sweetest Girl"'... well, I think there is a dirt, a criminality if you like, in sweetness itself".

BOOM! There it is. A beautiful answer to some of my questions. "You don't need to counterbalance sweetness with hardness or dirt, or in fact anything else at all," the picture tells me (without moving its lips), "because sweetness is already taboo!"

You're already being deeply subversive by being sweet, friendly, fey or light. Isn't this close to my ideas for a "friendly album"? My ideas about why Japan is such a joyful society to move through? That gentleness, friendliness and social harmony are the ultimate taboos, the ultimate liberations?

Or is it, in fact, closer to the corrosive idea of "guilty pleasures"? Is Green in fact saying we should embrace sugary chart pop and slurp it up uncritically, unresistingly, building up a guilt which only makes the pleasures more pleasant? And if so, doesn't this simply re-inscribe puritanism, rather than offering us a way out of it?

The picture of Green says nothing, which is bad. But doesn't walk away either, which is good.

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(Anonymous)
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:09 pm (UTC)
The greenest girl

For those who would like to listen to something a bit more challenging but haven’t the stomach for it, Green is perfect; he has a veneer of the alternative and the intellectual whilst never straying far from the mainstream. Whether it’s the early squatist skank or the "I'm in love with Derrida" wear my reading on my sleeve phase or the overproduced 80's vacuum-sealed hits there is no substance just a hollow whispring. The idea that he should come back plus beard and be hailed as a prodigal hero just adds insult to injury.


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:17 pm (UTC)
This is very Sartrean

<< Partly because I'd heard that Green might turn around and, without a word, walk away when I was talking to him. That's no good! I might as well talk to a picture! At least it wouldn't walk away! >>

Yes but a picture cannot turn away, reconsider, and then turn back around.

Do you really think Green would turn away from you momus? You're being silly. And if he did, so what. He's probably got gas.

I turn around and walk away a lot because I get bored.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:27 pm (UTC)
Re: This is very Sartrean

Maybe if I could somehow get to own some trademarks of stuff he was associated with he'd talk to me. Alas, I don't even have the money to own my own trademarks, let alone someone else's.


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:57 pm (UTC)
momus,

Weren't you listening? I own your trademark. It's all yours. Just say the word. I'll ftp the files over to your lawyer in the next hour if you like.


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:58 pm (UTC)
the files are here

http://famouslibrarian.com/ip/


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:01 pm (UTC)
Re: momus,

Problems with that:

1. If you own my trademark, it's all yours, not mine.
2. I don't have a lawyer.
3. I don't want my identity trademarked, by me or anyone else.
4. The trademark application process takes months and months and hundreds and hundreds of dollars, and is provisional on you talking on the phone to the trademark office to satisfy them that your claim is not facetious.
5. So stop your fibbing!
6. You were only joking? Good. We laughed last week.


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:04 pm (UTC)
Re: momus,

<< The trademark application process takes months and months and hundreds and hundreds of dollars, and is provisional on you talking on the phone to the trademark office to satisfy them that your claim is not facetious. >>

No. You have not been to the new site http://uspto.gov .

It costs 325 USD and takes like five minutes to file.

You do not need to be an attorney.

But, actually, I got all set up to register your good name, and then did not submit. So your name is still out there, for someone less scrupulous than I to take away from you.

I was only trying to protect you by pointing out that it is very easy to TM stuff now, and to do due diligence online, and to pick up artists' marks with very little effort.


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:05 pm (UTC)
Re: momus,

Two more things:

You are correct. An examining attorney makes a phone call, and you have to know what you're doing when s/he calls. You are correct on that matter.

I mean no harm. I'll shut up now.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:07 pm (UTC)
Re: momus,

Harriet, thanks for your concern. Now, let us not speak of "trademarking" ever again on this journal, okay? Deal?


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zzberlin
zzberlin
hh
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
my lip is zipped

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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 01:11 pm (UTC)
Re: my lip is zipped

Relevant comments on the topic of the day are of course welcome.


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rhodri
rhodri
Rhodri Marsden
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:27 pm (UTC)

Well, I'm lucky enough to play keyboards in the current incarnation of SP, as you know. Personally I think the sweetness on the new record is counterbalanced by things like odd song-structures (where tunes suddenly end just as they're getting going) and certain elements of the production (such as leaving in the groans of annoyance when he hits the wrong chords.) And of course, when we're playing the stuff live, there's all those rough edges playing against his voice, which seems to be working really well...

Oh, and I don't think he'd walk away. Maybe just look around the room :)


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:31 pm (UTC)

Yes, live music is always "gritty", even when it's syrupy.

I agree with you about the odd song structures and chords and things. In fact, I much prefer the demo version of "Wood Beez" to the shiny hit version, because, although it's quieter and more gentle, it has some very weird harmonization going on. The backing vocals on the chorus, for instance, are beautifully weird, and that got lost in Arif Mardin's version, with all its batter and splash.


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rhodri
rhodri
Rhodri Marsden
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:37 pm (UTC)

One thing I've been amazed by, since being involved, is the complexity of chords & harmonies in songs that sound incredibly simple on the surface. The verse of "The Word Girl" is a really good example. Just sounds like bass + offbeat chink + vox, but within that there's really interesting stuff going on. The fact that Green is anything but a muso makes it even more fascinating. For me, at any rate.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:43 pm (UTC)

Well, maybe he's a bit like me: his accidents are happy ones. I like the way he fucks up the end of the session version of Snow in Sun on that very complex descending chord motif. And on the demo of Wood Beez, the complexity of the chords in the chorus are down to the bass not playing the root note of the chords -- it's sort of out of control, harmonically, and then comes back into control at the end of the section. Early Scritti also had that balance between control and chaos. Later, things got too tidy (ie "Provision").


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Aug. 2nd, 2006 12:48 pm (UTC)

Whoops, the mistakes are in the Planet Claire session, not the one I linked above.


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