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Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 12:56 pm
Tokyo-as-highly-viral-third-culture-style-lab

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(Anonymous)
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)

So let's take a look at Richard's blog, shall we?

Lookalikes... "the inexorable logic of late capitalism"... looks pretty much like Marxy's blog!

I certainly agree that Tokyo is no less of a creative place because of its relative lack of an intellectual culture, just a different sort of place. Actually I was taking issue with your literary/visual binary. A lot of "visual" people - perhaps most - will take an intellectual approach to their art. (After all, conceptual art was the paradigm in the YBA world of the 90s.) You seem to be talking about a subset of "visual" people who don't, rather than visual people as a whole.


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imomus
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 03:21 pm (UTC)

I think I'm just saying that visual thinking is thinking too, and that you can be a textural intellectual as well as a textual one. For some reason textural intellectuals thrive in Tokyo, whereas textual intellectuals wilt on the bough.


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alin huma
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 03:29 pm (UTC)

seen from within i don't think the dychotomy is that sharp. a lot of visual stuff, say the photography of araki or masafumi sanai, is usually (self-)described as literary (文学的) - in contrast to say takashi honma who, with more or less succes, is deliberately trying to avoid that by going for a certain 'western'-like conceptualism.


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(Anonymous)
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 04:21 pm (UTC)

Sounds like they're trying to cover up their creative inadequacy through pseudo-intellectual blather. Real artists can never speak about their own works - it's like being blind, deaf, and dumb.


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alin huma
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC)

eh ??


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alin huma
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 05:08 pm (UTC)

anonymous , by your standard probably the hero of akutagawa's jigokuhen might be the only true artist in japanese history.

Also i think the literary/critical tradition is far from dead here. there's a ridiculous amount of good novels published and read all the time (i don't know what random generator decides what's to be translated for the west) . same with critical stuff, bookshops are always packed but i guess that's a world the metro-visual gaikokujin usually doesn't dwell in.


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(Anonymous)
Tue, Dec. 19th, 2006 08:23 pm (UTC)

Alin, would you care to mention what a couple of the more interesting recent novels have been? just curious what your suggestions would be - I've been interested in finding a good Japanese novel lately, but I'm not sure where to look.. (I'm outside Japan now but read Japanese)


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alin huma
Wed, Dec. 20th, 2006 04:47 am (UTC)

uhmmm, busted, i havn't actualy been reading that much fiction recently, been busy going through the colected works of Kojin Karatani, a lovely old musty yellow set of collected Kafka in the old kanji for that bit extra entfremdung, a translation of Mille Plateux ...
... actualy i have just read something called Body Rental by 佐藤亜紀子, だれかのことをつよく思ってみたかた by 角田光代 with photos by Masafumi Sanai, some manga by Yamada Naoto (荻窪夫婦 etc)-  the last two being perfect examples of what i said earlier about there being no clear gap between the literary and the visual. 阿部和重 is quite interesting though probably already entered that over-productive stage the japanese literary machine tends to foster.

one thing after the Murakamis is that there are no more giants it's all minor in a good sense .. a lot of girl fiction etc. There was a literature issue of Studio Voice a few months ago that would have plenty of recomandations if you could get your hands on it.


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(Anonymous)
Wed, Dec. 20th, 2006 09:05 am (UTC)

thanks! those sound like interesting starting points. i'll see if maybe i can track down the Studio Voice issue, too.


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