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Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 06:13 am
Thatness and Thereness




I recorded this cover of Ryuichi Sakamoto's 1980 song "Thatness and Thereness" the other evening. Now it's a multi-screen web video installation: just click play on both screens.

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Mr. the Cutup
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 05:39 am (UTC)

I don't know the original, but I like yours.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Sat, Aug. 11th, 2007 10:27 am (UTC)

Not the original, but a 90s live rendition with accompaniment by Arto Lindsay!


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 12:49 pm (UTC)

The face belongs to a fashion-desiger, Japanese but based in London. I'm rather interested in whether the catchment area for Click Opera includes anyone who can identify her (I already know, obviously, and Hisae knows people who know her).

Hisae likes the face-shuttling effect very much (it's done by pausing a Quicktime movie then flicking the mouse trackball, then re-filming the screen) and laughed a lot when I showed her the video. "She has a very Heian face," she said.

I googled that and found a review on the BFI's site of a film called Sansho the Bailiff:

"The curve of her pale cheek and its echo in the classic contour of her coiffure immediately connote the Heian heroine, the female repository of elegance, aristocratic grace and aesthetic knowledge. Hers is the classic late-Heian face, a stoic Noh mask filled with restrained emotion, reminiscent of the mother in the play Sumidagawa, who travels in search of a child she will learn has died."


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 01:43 pm (UTC)




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cheapsurrealist
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Dave Nold
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 02:09 pm (UTC)

That's lovely. You should do two more and make a youtube installation.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 08:13 pm (UTC)

Well, I've met you halfway -- now there's one more and it's an installation!


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cheapsurrealist
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Dave Nold
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 10:23 pm (UTC)

Ok. I've got one in the oven. I'm about to stick a toothpick in it to see if it's done.


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cheapsurrealist
cheapsurrealist
Dave Nold
Tue, Jul. 17th, 2007 05:16 am (UTC)

I've placed it here.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Tue, Jul. 17th, 2007 09:43 am (UTC)

Ah, very nice indeed! That horizontal layout of my two screens is what I wanted for the Click Opera page, but I couldn't make it work. And your pale theatre is eerie in just the right way!


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cheapsurrealist
cheapsurrealist
Dave Nold
Tue, Jul. 17th, 2007 02:35 pm (UTC)

Thanks, glad you liked it. On a cinema display they all line up. I have nothing against the vertical mind you but 3 youtube videos stacked up don't fit on my screen.

They could be resized but I'm not sure how to do that with lj code and the small screen in the pale theatre couldn't be much smaller.

Anyway, thanks. That was fun.


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qscrisp
Mon, Jul. 16th, 2007 09:18 pm (UTC)

Funny, I was watching a Mizoguchi film just yesterday - Ugetsu Monogatari.


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alin huma
Tue, Jul. 17th, 2007 03:37 pm (UTC)

it at the same time comforts me and annoys me to see you do things the way i always tend to do. just drop things here and let the viewer, if they can be bothered, finish/polish/create the piece in their mind - when with a bit more time and effort you could make something with a mistifying 'product' aura, something that 'works' for more people. (but maybe this might indeed be the best way to do things now.)


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Tue, Jul. 17th, 2007 05:35 pm (UTC)

Well, I had that debate about the book. Was it better to withdraw and do things behind a veil, then have a big product launch and so on?

But I think the answer is no. I like letting people in on the process of making, letting people get a glimpse of things while they're in that intoxicating state of unfinished-ness. There's something Brechtian / Japanese about it (showing the stage hands, showing the rehearsal, showing that every creative decision could be reversed after consultation, nothing is written in stone). And then later, when you have something in the old media (a book, a record), well, the interest isn't necessarily any less because people were in at the creation.

There may be something domestic-feeling about the final product (after all, we pajamahadeen are performing, daily, in our dressing gowns). But that's fine. Domestica (didn't Bjork almost use that title for one of her laptop albums?) is a perfectly sympathetic aesthetic: non-macho, participatory, open, cheap, small, flexible, tactical. And it doesn't dispel mystery to see mystery parading daily in her yukata. Not if she's really inherently mysterious. And she is -- did you see her eyes flicker?


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