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Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 11:37 am
The pop dictators

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imomus
imomus
imomus
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 11:14 am (UTC)

More Philip Jap stuff (must admit I'd never heard of him before stumbling on the Save Us video):

Total Erasure and Brain Dance.

He's one of the best of the Bowie impersonators of the era. Better than Zaine Griff.


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electricwitch
electricwitch
For anything, oh! she´ll bust her elastic
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 11:14 am (UTC)

not as good as David Sylvian, though.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 11:35 am (UTC)

I must say I think Sylvian -- in terms of his gestures and look -- isn't really a Bowie impersonator in the same sense that Griff and Jap are. Griff and Jap do the exact same mime moves, "wide stride" hip thrusts and so on as Bowie. Sylvian is more shy and retiring, more Andy Warhol. He's never going to give you a Lindsay Kemp routine. And vocally he's more like Ferry than Bowie. More crooneresque.

By the way, I completely adore this:



It's hard to imagine Hitler singing that.


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akabe
akabe
alin huma
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)

can certainly hear echoes of this in some of your stuff (Pierrot Lunaire etc)


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC)

I think, commercially speaking, there probably isn't enough of this stuff going on in my work. You know, when you look at one video on YouTube and it's got 5,000 views, and another one has 500,000, often the difference is that the latter touches on some primal theme or manner which is a bit "fascist": populism, nationalism, sexism, groin thrusting, things I'd probably be too refined, ironic or PC to put into my work. More fool me, perhaps.


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akabe
akabe
alin huma
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)

yes, and i think that's when (surely, one one level only, but one i can truly appreciate) your songs become something like song-like essays about songs.


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electricwitch
electricwitch
For anything, oh! she´ll bust her elastic
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 05:40 pm (UTC)

Yes, but Sylvia had the hair, and also he does the knee dance. So he wins.

Aaah that show is great, someone posted him duetting It´s My Party with Cilla Black to glam_lolz last week, it was genius.


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niddrie_edge
niddrie_edge
raymond
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)

I can't make my mind up about Italy's Renato Zero. He apparently was doing the bisexual androgyne bit in the late 60s but gets lumped into the Bowie imitator class. I love the construction of his songs once I change my ears.

http://niddrie-edge.livejournal.com/78856.html

For the life of me I cannot a find a video of Bolan doing Child Star. Metal Guru B sides? No problem!


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electricwitch
electricwitch
For anything, oh! she´ll bust her elastic
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 05:48 pm (UTC)
probably you know this already, but whatev. *puts glam fact hat on*

Renato Zero has a background similar to Bowie´s: theatre, music etc, but was refused a contract for many years until after Bowie, when glamrock had reached Italy, and they found him marketable.

He´d go to record companies in the 60s and they´s keep telling him he was nothing, a zero, that´s where he got his name from. I´d say he was a lot like Bowie, but certainly not an imitator. He seems a lot more operatic from his music and his style of costume, more 19th century castrato in his angrodyny than space age.


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electricwitch
electricwitch
For anything, oh! she´ll bust her elastic
Sat, Sep. 29th, 2007 05:49 pm (UTC)
lol

coke slur typing.


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niddrie_edge
niddrie_edge
raymond
Sun, Sep. 30th, 2007 12:27 am (UTC)
Re: probably you know this already, but whatev. *puts glam fact hat on*

This is what I come here for.
I suspected there was some Italian cultural history in him, which I could not put my finger on. One feels the theatre in him.
I am going to ask my friend from Bologna for the info. She knows of him.


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electricwitch
electricwitch
For anything, oh! she´ll bust her elastic
Sun, Sep. 30th, 2007 11:14 am (UTC)

Yes, do share, as I have laboriously slaved my way through a number of fan websites, relying on my Latin to understand the Italian, but I would like to know more, and more easily.


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