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Tue, Jan. 13th, 2009 03:29 am
Utsu: drugging the ordinary sadness of Japanese and children

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aienn
aienn
aienn
Tue, Jan. 13th, 2009 10:07 pm (UTC)

well, let's peruse WHO data:
Russia
USA
Finland
[country list]

I say, this data doesn't really speak. Russia with its consistently failing health services shows triple the American rate, but here comes our small northern neighbor Finland with less suicide cases than us but twice the American rate — and Finland is a country with excellent healtcare system (I had several chances to visit their medical facilities while accompanying my mum) and overall quality of life that is much higher than in Ru.Fed (again, I've been there numerous times to be able to compare). Yes, Russia has other problems, like hundreds of thousands of people dying each year not of even alcoholism but of poisoning by substances containing traces of technical spirits (very ugly indeed), but our suicide data doesn't really relate to US of A or to Suomi Fi — and in Suomi Fi it's completely normal to cure depression with medication, and yet they have twice the American suicide cases. If we compare suicidal age groups in Finland and Denmark, we'll see amusingly different data (I'll leave that to you). Um?


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krskrft
krskrft
Wed, Jan. 14th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)

You're missing the point. I'm merely trying to point out that Russia's response to mental anguish, as you describe it, probably shouldn't be taken as any sort of ideal of treatment. In many ways, I'd rather that my country be obsessive about mental illness, and in that way at the very least be open to talking about the anguish that the language of "mental illness" (whether real or not) attempts to describe, than live in a place where people just tell you to buck up and get over it. At the end of the day, nobody is forcing pills down an American adult's throat. The reason why I get so bent out of shape with ADHD diagnoses in children is only because they don't have the same choice to stay off medication, especially if their parents are in on it.


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