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Sun, Jan. 25th, 2009 04:02 am
Siding with Cage against Branca

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imomus
imomus
imomus
Sun, Jan. 25th, 2009 12:55 pm (UTC)

Absolutely. I think there's a direct connection between intense music and the kind of human relations which make people mutter "Jeez, the ego has landed". (Also, drugs.)

Then again, how to explain the Osaka noise underground, which is full of people who make incredibly intense music, yet are terribly selfless and chatty and open and aren't doing anything stronger than shochu?


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viceanglais
viceanglais
Sun, Jan. 25th, 2009 01:38 pm (UTC)
Ibiza kills (and so do Razorlight)

Heriot-Watt University avoid measuring minimalism against totalism, however the average rocker's personality is "low self-esteem, creative, not hard-working, not outgoing, gentle, at ease". 'Not gentle' registers with dance and indie fans, although no score for rap.


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eclectiktronik
eclectiktronik
eclectiktronik
Sun, Jan. 25th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)

"Then again, how to explain the Osaka noise underground, which is full of people who make incredibly intense music, yet are terribly selfless and chatty and open and aren't doing anything stronger than shochu?"

I think there is also an important disctinction to be made between 'anger' and 'hate' in art. For me anyway, in art and in life, anger (along with other little-studied emotions like disgust) is vital (with the proviso that is is channeled effectively, as with any othe emotion. It means you don't just swallow the status quo, it means that you have a comparison between the way things are and the way things should be; which in turn enables us to talk of notions of progress. Arguably, without anger (at injustice, at ignorance, at stupidity, or whatever else) you'd have no starting point for action. I'd also stick my neck out and say that there's already too much 'good-time' ethos in art and not enough anger!

Also, one must be careful about linking a person's art too directly with their outlook on life. It could be a case of taking too much at face value. Who is to say that, depsite their aural onslaught, MBV aren't also, in whatever other way, seeking a better world? we must be wary of the myths of art's omnipotence for good or bad!


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akabe
akabe
alin huma
Sun, Jan. 25th, 2009 10:56 pm (UTC)
the Osaka noise underground

well, they're the ethnic other and the other's dyonisian becomes one's apollonian, or something like that, especially if one's european. (osaka's decent people are scared to even go into shinsaibashi)


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