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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 01:19 am
Did Beatnik Grifter Play On Loathsome Hipster Negro Fetish?

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tropigalia
tropigalia
Dewy-Eyed Disney Bride
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 05:00 am (UTC)

The closest referent we have is some Fu Manchu Dr. Evil character trapped in our mental registry, and so we ask "Hey Fu Manchu Dr. Evil guy, what would you think about these comments?" And of course, the brilliant answer most of us come up with is "Holy crap! I don't even care, because you're Fu Manchu Dr. Evil guy! Go twist your mustache and plot against our secret agents somewhere else!"

haha ok that's awesome

I still don't know who thinks that Asian women are temptresses? I sure don't.

We make the assumption that with other mixed race couples that there "must be something" because with them, unlike with men who are vehement in their preference for Asian ladies, we don't see them broadcasting their preferences and justifying it with laughable generalizations all over the place.


If there were large legions of guys who constantly talked about the superiority of black or Latina women then maybe it'd receive the same backlash. But it can't receive the same backlash if they're not fetishized in the same way in the first place.

idk i'm just bitter 'cause i'm a fat white girl and the asian girls are taking my men in pedophile glasses and ironic t-shirts away :(


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krskrft
krskrft
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 05:12 am (UTC)

Well, I should be clear that, when I lodge this complaint, I'm only lodging it against people like the person who wrote this article for Jezebel. Nevertheless, this idea does seem to carry some currency within the communities at issue here. Gawker had the whole thing about Michael Phelps dating an Asian girl, obviously because he's a nerd and nerds love Asians, and he can probably only get an Asian girl because he's a nerd, etc.

It's one thing if this formulation is obviously tongue-in-cheek, something common to the snark of hipster-targeted online media.

But the Jezebel article, as you note, really appears to have been forwarding its notions as a legit explanation of Ferrell's motives, as well as her successes. It's clear that they thought it was a salient attack on white male hipsters, but what they appear not to have thought of was what they were saying about Asian women when they made that attack. And at the end of the day, it was just needlessly indulgent of them, because Kari Ferrell--documented as incredibly pushy and stalkerish, once she obtained entry into a social circle--didn't even fit the profile they were attempting to create.

Needless to say, if you don't fit the profile, I'm not attributing these values to you. All I'm saying is that there may be cultural conditions which cause women of Asian descent to be subjected to special scrutiny by their white counterparts.


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tropigalia
tropigalia
Dewy-Eyed Disney Bride
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 05:14 am (UTC)

"But the Jezebel article, as you note, really appears to have been forwarding its notions as a legit explanation of Ferrell's motives, as well as her successes. It's clear that they thought it was a salient attack on white male hipsters, but what they appear not to have thought of was what they were saying about Asian women when they made that attack. And at the end of the day, it was just needlessly indulgent of them, because Kari Ferrell--documented as incredibly pushy and stalkerish, once she obtained entry into a social circle--didn't even fit the profile they were attempting to create."

I think this is a good point and it helped me better understand the point Momus was making because I sort of dismiss everything he says with "He is a white guy who wants to bang Asian chicks and will always come to the Pinkerton's defense regardless of whether they are right or wrong".


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