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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 01:19 am
Did Beatnik Grifter Play On Loathsome Hipster Negro Fetish?

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qscrisp
qscrisp
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 11:42 am (UTC)

Good points.

I knew about the detention camps, actually, but they're not very prominent in my consciousness. Being 37 this week, as a Briton, I am old enough to have grown up with lingering British resentment towards the Japanese for the treatment of British POWs during WWII. I think generations younger than mine are not really aware of this resentment, probably.

About the race card, America may well be ahead of Britain on dismissivemess here. I'm not the best person to judge. I just thought I'd try and make myself a bit clearer. Is something that someone is saying actually promoting social injustice? I just don't think we should slip into a situation where it's possible for people to say things that boil down to, "I am offended, therefore you are racist!" as if the personal feelings of offence of all have to be catered to.

In the case of the U.N. conference, the card itself is, well, as far as I can see, being used to promote injustice.


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krskrft
krskrft
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 12:30 pm (UTC)

Well, I mean, the entire point of the Jezebel article is to presume that Kari Ferrell's race played a significant, even central, role in her fraudulent activities, even though everything we know about Ferrell tells us that she was basically the opposite of the stereotype presented in the article. In this case, I don't think it counts as "playing the race card" to call Jezebel out, since the forwarding of this racial stereotype was central to the point the article made. In this case, the "racist" claim isn't just there to distract from the argument or grab an easy victory, but actually plays a distinct role in directly rebutting the arguments made in the article.

But yeah, America has been going through this rough phase for a while now, where this vocal segment of the conservative movement is convinced that every single time race is brought up, it's a case of somebody playing the race card. We are supposed to be post-racial now, which apparently means we no longer discuss race, because we're totally beyond it. So if somebody at a rally holds up a sign referring to Obama as a "Kenyan pirate" and you call it racist, OMG you're just unfairly tainting the guy's reputation, because it's so EASY to just call somebody racist and DEMONIZE them. I guess if it's easy to call somebody a racist, that must mean they're not a racist.


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qscrisp
qscrisp
Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009 01:41 pm (UTC)

Well, I mean, the entire point of the Jezebel article is to presume that Kari Ferrell's race played a significant, even central, role in her fraudulent activities, even though everything we know about Ferrell tells us that she was basically the opposite of the stereotype presented in the article. In this case, I don't think it counts as "playing the race card" to call Jezebel out

No, I think you're right, hence my comment somewhere further down in response to another comment of yours. My criticism would have been more appropriate if it had been about this not being the equivalent of white-on-black racism.


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