?

Log in

No account? Create an account
click opera
February 2010
 
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
 
 
 
 
 
 
Page 1 of 5
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:55 pm
A judgment of Paris

Today I want to bring together, here on Click Opera, an entry in which you the readers do most of the work, and in which images take the place of text. I'm also interested in how predictable my aesthetics have become. So what I'm proposing is a judgment of Paris; a beauty contest which is also a sifting of values (visual, aesthetic, political, semantic, sexual).

I want to see images of females, girls, women you think are totally my type. They should be wearing clothes, that's important. People without clothes are stripped of cultural referents, and we want those. They should be people who style themselves rather than have professional stylists, and they should be ordinary people, not celebrities. Street style sites like Facehunter might be a good place to source the images, or Flickr feeds. They shouldn't be people I know in real life. Be nice to me in your comments (yes, I am very old, and a bit funny looking) and be nice to the women.

At midnight CET I'll select a winning image -- the person I find most appealing, according to my own personal aesthetic code. I hope I won't have to exclaim "You never knew me!" I think by now you probably do.

Update (midnight CET): What an exciting finish! With about twenty minutes to go before the non-sexist gong sounded, this very beautiful image arrived:



While it looked for a while as if this indie musician would win, the judges -- all right, judge -- decided that she must be excluded as, possibly, a "celebrity", and, possibly, styled (though these things aren't really provable, and we don't know who the woman is).

And so this woman was chosen instead:



The judges (all right, judge) particularly liked the elegant hooded white garment, the expression of intent concentration, and the evidence of creative endeavour (carving) in the picture. Thanks to all who submitted pictures.

232CommentReply


(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:10 pm (UTC)



Via Tim Rudder's blog.


ReplyThread

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)

Looks like Dropbox is having issues. Here's a direct link: http://www.timrudder.com/wordpress/photos/20090908_02.jpg


ReplyThread Parent

(no subject) - (Anonymous)
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:20 pm (UTC)

This is like going on a blind date with a person who stays rigidly frozen in one position all night! It's a bit hard to tell from just one snap, but I guess that limitation is one of the interesting things about photography. How to suggest an impossibly large amount of information with a single image?


ReplyThread Parent

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:20 pm (UTC)

What a shame Twit Opera is no longer around: "Need new Jap teens to perve at. Asked readers to pimp me their faves."


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)

Reductive misanthropy breaks the rules!


ReplyThread Parent
birdgerhl
birdgerhl
heels and pints
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)

ugh. this is really, truly appalling.


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:25 pm (UTC)

Predicting what someone finds appealing is the new appalling?


ReplyThread Parent Expand















(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand



wow...wow. - (Anonymous) Expand


Re: wow...wow. - (Anonymous) Expand



(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand



(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


rhetoric just - (Anonymous) Expand

lolz - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: lolz - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: lolz - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: lolz - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

LolZ - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: LolZ - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: LolZ - (Anonymous) Expand

Re: LolZ - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand





(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

eptified
eptified
H. Duck
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:26 pm (UTC)

..can't really be bothered with this



found via gis for "ethnic pants"


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:32 pm (UTC)

Aha! That's Yama-sama from Tokyo Bopper! She's already a cult amongst my friends. Jan has a framed photograph of her on his wall (a page from FRUiTS). Hisae used to revere her but is now a bit "post".


ReplyThread Parent Expand

Post reverence - (Anonymous) Expand

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:31 pm (UTC)

So this is the Momus version of Readers' Wives?

Now, I'm reliably informed that sexual interest in young woman decades younger than oneself doesn't stop when men hit 50, au contraire. But I think 50 is a good age to get a bit dignified about it and keep it to yourself, your close friends and lovers, rather than spray it over the Internet.


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:36 pm (UTC)

We're not going to get derailed by the identity politics angle, because it's tedious beyond belief. But if we were, you just defined the battlefield perfectly: it's sexism versus ageism. Competing victimhoods.


ReplyThread Parent Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand




(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:36 pm (UTC)


ReplyThread

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:46 pm (UTC)
Miss Momus 2009

So it's come to this, eh? I guess it's the logical, sollipsisitic conclusion of Click Opera - coopt the readership in your masturbatory fantasies.


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Miss Momus 2009

I think it speaks volumes that you jump from beauty to masturbation so readily. Ban beauty, ban appealing people, they make us wank!


ReplyThread Parent Expand



(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:52 pm (UTC)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6UzdmF8O-Oo/SvVhSebAyWI/AAAAAAAAUuA/JV8UKePYPHM/s1600-h/IMG_5314.jpg


ReplyThread

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 12:53 pm (UTC)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6UzdmF8O-Oo/SveXB0I53_I/AAAAAAAAU1Y/HsooELyT0H8/s1600-h/IMG_5803.jpg


ReplyThread

(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:01 pm (UTC)

A bit sad to see Click Opera reduced to a Hot or Not site. Who cares if it's sexist or ageist, it's just a bit moronic.


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:05 pm (UTC)

You're discriminating against the right brain, the part that processes visuals, aesthetics, sex. It's brain too, you know!


ReplyThread Parent
writewrongs
writewrongs
That's not a name, it's a colour!
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:06 pm (UTC)

I can appreciate your writing, and I'm a fan of your music, but this entry and specifically your request strike me as sexist, ageist, (weightist?), and in a particular way, even racist (or to clarify that: fetishistic without consequence). Women come in age-brackets other than 16-25. Although you've never explicitly said (that I remember) that's all you want, there's an awful lot of romanticizing of young, Asian women. There is nothing wrong with having a "type," and I find myself dating many boys that look about the same. However, asking for strangers to post random pictures of young thin Asian women you might like crosses a line of "that's my type, I usually date that type" to "that's what I expect, that's what women should be." It objectifies the women involved and reassigns them as fetish objects for you, and I don't think that's what most of these women would want.

There are women who men can carry relationships with that aren't tiny Asian girls. I don't know how old you are and it doesn't bother me that you are attracted to whatever you like in pictures, but it does make a person wonder: When an older, intelligent, attractive, and successful man needs the supply of overwhelmingly younger and specifically trend-beautiful young women, are they trying to compensate for something? If you're afraid of growing older, wouldn't it be nice to have someone your age to share that with you? If you're afraid you're losing your youth, wouldn't someone much younger perpetuate that feeling?

Anyway, I hope I have been respectful in my comment and have not insulted you by encouraging you to look at your privilege or understand it differently. I continue to read your journal and listen to your music and respect you, and see this kind of search for women as objects as a reflection of your hurt. If you want to look at communities that can help you sort through all the -isms I brought up, I have a few on my profile page.

Thanks Momus,
Olivia.


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)

asking for strangers to post random pictures of young thin Asian women you might like

Well, as you kindly acknowledge, I did not specify any age or weight range, or any ethnicity. I carefully used three words: female, girl, woman.

I know exactly where you're coming from -- don't worry, I have bathed in identity politics, snorkeled in it, drunk it to the brim. And, at the end of that process, I have come to the conclusion that there is a lot of sexism built into anti-sexism.


ReplyThread Parent Expand



(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


lolz - (Anonymous) Expand


Re: lolz - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:08 pm (UTC)

Momus, will you be doing a nude version of this game as well?


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:19 pm (UTC)

No.


ReplyThread Parent Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(Anonymous)
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:11 pm (UTC)

It would have been better if you'd included fellas too - that are 'totally your type' ... it is a bit iffy this post - Stuart Murdoch (from Belle & Sebastian) has rather more interesting, appealing, considered ideas about 'type' attraction. And anyway, we know what you like! - Japanese girls in schoolgirl uniforms with thought bubbles such as ... "ooo ... Mr. Nick you are so very naughty" (girl giggles and looks, shyly, away from your voyeuristic gaze).


ReplyThread
imomus
imomus
imomus
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:18 pm (UTC)

Japanese girls in schoolgirl uniforms

Well, see, this is a complete misapprehension! You will probably be astonished at midnight.


ReplyThread Parent Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand



(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand


(no subject) - (Anonymous) Expand

womanonfire
Auriea.
Fri, Nov. 20th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)


ReplyThread