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The underclass wants to become the overman! - click opera
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Wed, Dec. 9th, 2009 04:50 am
The underclass wants to become the overman!

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imomus
imomus
imomus
Wed, Dec. 9th, 2009 12:12 am (UTC)

Click Opera is read by a Western audience. I believe strongly that people should put their own houses in order. When you put other people's houses in order, that's called war.


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(Anonymous)
Wed, Dec. 9th, 2009 08:03 am (UTC)

then stop always telling america/england to put its house in order; it's an act of discursive war.

here's an experiment: try stopping x amount of people on the street in tokyo/osaka/nyc/london, and ask them whether they think their society is overly materialist/consumerist. they'll likely say "sorry, can't help you, i'm going shopping..."


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realrealgone
realrealgone
realrealgone
Wed, Dec. 9th, 2009 10:38 am (UTC)

Problems are distractions from the essence of something, someone, or some place, not a key to understanding it.

When you put other people's houses in order, that's called war.


I fundamentally disagree. I think you are confusing / conflating critical comprehension with war. You would not be a turncoat Japanese cab driver. No-one's going to go war on the back of what you thought you overheard in the back of your cab.

Problems, of course, do not offer the whole picture - but they are the 'tells' of a society's fundamental basis (as you occasionally appear to believe yourself... when you are not wrapped up in your retro-necro 'revolutionary' rhetoric). The cultural wonderfulness you are such of fan of happens *in spite* of a society's economy (whatever that economy is), not fundamentally because of it.

Just some thoughts...

best wishes, your friend in low places


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st_ranger
st_ranger
Palimpsests of a Secret Whistler
Thu, Dec. 10th, 2009 02:17 am (UTC)

Fundamentally, I do agree with you. Although your blog is read by a lot of Japanese people, too, I think, it seems. I don't want to put anyone's house in order, my only interest is in gaining insight and wisdom. It seems to be, tho, that you will look at a certain phenomenon going on in the East and pronounce it "super-x" and inherently good and praise it, and invoke ideals of conformity and the the loveliness of everyone having connectivity and so on. Then you'll point to something pretty darned similar in the West and pronounce it "y" and inherently bad and put it down, and invoke the nastiness of individuality and aggressive manhood and big muscles and people who like sports. And then we'll all decide as a group that the Eastern way is definitely better and the Western way sucks, but to me, they look pretty similar really. Urban people buying shit made by rural slaves they'll never meet.

*shrug* From where I'm sitting, on my dairy farm on the coast of Humboldt, California, it all looks pretty much the same. Perhaps I must visit the Concrete Paradise over the water to really understand how people are living their slow lives surrounded by asphalt and concrete and steel.


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imomus
imomus
imomus
Thu, Dec. 10th, 2009 02:27 am (UTC)

A dairy farm in Humboldt California! Wow!


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